Comments on: How can I put my gigs online? http://newmusicstrategies.com/2008/08/17/how-can-i-put-my-gigs-online/ Music culture, strategy and thinking in the digital age Sun, 20 May 2012 02:12:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Miguel M. http://newmusicstrategies.com/2008/08/17/how-can-i-put-my-gigs-online/comment-page-1/#comment-2528 Miguel M. Sat, 23 Aug 2008 00:04:08 +0000 http://newmusicstrategies.com/?p=732#comment-2528 There is a company called discrevolt.com that records a live show and sells a download card to the fans at the show that they can redeem when they get home (they call it a "livepass"). I saw a Jason Aldean concert in Bristol, TN a few months ago and they were there. The show rocked, so I had to experiment with this concept I had never heard of (well, except for a few acts I have seen over the years that tried to burn CDs after the show and sell them to fans). I bought the card for $15 (not bad, in my opinion since I was at THAT SHOW!) and downloaded the concert when I got home from Jason Aldean's website. On his site today, I saw that he is still offering the download cards through his online store. Don't know what relevance this has to artists that perform for smaller crowds, but I would probably buy one of these at every show I go to if it rocks. There is a company called discrevolt.com that records a live show and sells a download card to the fans at the show that they can redeem when they get home (they call it a “livepass”). I saw a Jason Aldean concert in Bristol, TN a few months ago and they were there. The show rocked, so I had to experiment with this concept I had never heard of (well, except for a few acts I have seen over the years that tried to burn CDs after the show and sell them to fans). I bought the card for $15 (not bad, in my opinion since I was at THAT SHOW!) and downloaded the concert when I got home from Jason Aldean’s website.

On his site today, I saw that he is still offering the download cards through his online store. Don’t know what relevance this has to artists that perform for smaller crowds, but I would probably buy one of these at every show I go to if it rocks.

]]> By: GigDoggy http://newmusicstrategies.com/2008/08/17/how-can-i-put-my-gigs-online/comment-page-1/#comment-2534 GigDoggy Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:27:54 +0000 http://newmusicstrategies.com/?p=732#comment-2534 By 'putting your gigs online, I think Andrew meant put as much of your online as possible, hence all the post-work features such as pictures, blogging, ringtones and so on. But to answer the 'how' question extensively would be interesting. I didn't know SyncLive before reading this post and it's by far the best solution for the moment, that I know of at least. That site rocks in many respects. Concerning having filmed videos of your bands, you stand a better chance at getting noticed if they are of good quality, but I dont think It will take you down a notch to post less-quality content, unless of course it's inaudible and picture is so bad you cant tell the difference between a man or a woman on stage. Bands have only started to massively film their concerts no so long ago so the standards for quality aren't that high yet. Meaning that having any kind of filmed signature is a good idea, mostly if you plan on gig swapping with out of town bands and depend on an online-effort to network. By ‘putting your gigs online, I think Andrew meant put as much of your online as possible, hence all the post-work features such as pictures, blogging, ringtones and so on.

But to answer the ‘how’ question extensively would be interesting. I didn’t know SyncLive before reading this post and it’s by far the best solution for the moment, that I know of at least.

That site rocks in many respects. Concerning having filmed videos of your bands, you stand a better chance at getting noticed if they are of good quality, but I dont think It will take you down a notch to post less-quality content, unless of course it’s inaudible and picture is so bad you cant tell the difference between a man or a woman on stage.

Bands have only started to massively film their concerts no so long ago so the standards for quality aren’t that high yet. Meaning that having any kind of filmed signature is a good idea, mostly if you plan on gig swapping with out of town bands and depend on an online-effort to network.

]]> By: JP http://newmusicstrategies.com/2008/08/17/how-can-i-put-my-gigs-online/comment-page-1/#comment-2533 JP Mon, 18 Aug 2008 13:40:27 +0000 http://newmusicstrategies.com/?p=732#comment-2533 Given the title "How can I put my gigs online?", I was expecting more discussion along the lines of the "how" and not so much the "why". ie: --- more suggestions for online resources for webcasting for musicians. --- tips on presentation or publicity for attracting visitors to a live webcast vs. embedded. --- Is there any way to make money off a live webcast?? (or is this another "give it away for free so you can sell T-shirts" approach?) Just some feedback. The email list, post-show blog write-up, live ringtone etc. is all good advice (if not covered already), but a bit off-topic. Given the title “How can I put my gigs online?”, I was expecting more discussion along the lines of the “how” and not so much the “why”. ie:

— more suggestions for online resources for webcasting for musicians.
— tips on presentation or publicity for attracting visitors to a live webcast vs. embedded.
— Is there any way to make money off a live webcast?? (or is this another “give it away for free so you can sell T-shirts” approach?)

Just some feedback. The email list, post-show blog write-up, live ringtone etc. is all good advice (if not covered already), but a bit off-topic.

]]> By: James Pew http://newmusicstrategies.com/2008/08/17/how-can-i-put-my-gigs-online/comment-page-1/#comment-2535 James Pew Mon, 18 Aug 2008 12:14:53 +0000 http://newmusicstrategies.com/?p=732#comment-2535 Many of the live video clips I see of bands are of such poor quality that I think they do more harm than good. But if the audio/video a has little production value than I agree with every word Andrew says. If you are able to bring (rent) a multi-track recording device I would highly recommend taking direct outs from each channel on the mixing console. Then you can take the audio footage to your home studio or a commercial studio and give it a proper mix. I also like I Have Clones idea about multiple camera angles. But if I had to choose between multiple cameras and direct outs allowing capture of each mic...I'd go with the direct outs. Many of the live video clips I see of bands are of such poor quality that I think they do more harm than good. But if the audio/video a has little production value than I agree with every word Andrew says.

If you are able to bring (rent) a multi-track recording device I would highly recommend taking direct outs from each channel on the mixing console. Then you can take the audio footage to your home studio or a commercial studio and give it a proper mix.

I also like I Have Clones idea about multiple camera angles. But if I had to choose between multiple cameras and direct outs allowing capture of each mic…I’d go with the direct outs.

]]> By: I Have Clones http://newmusicstrategies.com/2008/08/17/how-can-i-put-my-gigs-online/comment-page-1/#comment-2532 I Have Clones Mon, 18 Aug 2008 09:49:13 +0000 http://newmusicstrategies.com/?p=732#comment-2532 I don't really think you need to be able to stream your gig 'live', but it's far more important to get a decent quality recording of a live performance that you can then embed on your site which is then viewable whenever a fan wishes. This is great in making your site content rich and also can help bring people to gigs, as they already know that you (hopefully) don't suck live and know they are getting a good show for their money. The experience can be better if there is more than one camera filming the performance and you can then edit these together to make it more exciting to watch than one static shot from the back of the venue. You should also aim to get a good audio recording through the PA and not from the camera mic as it will most likely get distorted and your performance sound like a mush. I think you should get some audience shots in there - showing the audience having a good time, and you should also position a mic to capture audience reaction. Problems are - finding people with cameras - or buying your own - they are fairly pricey! Also, beware of venues offering to film you and charge you for it - an absolute rip off from what I have seen - so DIY! I don’t really think you need to be able to stream your gig ‘live’, but it’s far more important to get a decent quality recording of a live performance that you can then embed on your site which is then viewable whenever a fan wishes.

This is great in making your site content rich and also can help bring people to gigs, as they already know that you (hopefully) don’t suck live and know they are getting a good show for their money.

The experience can be better if there is more than one camera filming the performance and you can then edit these together to make it more exciting to watch than one static shot from the back of the venue. You should also aim to get a good audio recording through the PA and not from the camera mic as it will most likely get distorted and your performance sound like a mush.

I think you should get some audience shots in there – showing the audience having a good time, and you should also position a mic to capture audience reaction.

Problems are – finding people with cameras – or buying your own – they are fairly pricey!

Also, beware of venues offering to film you and charge you for it – an absolute rip off from what I have seen – so DIY!

]]> By: Jonny http://newmusicstrategies.com/2008/08/17/how-can-i-put-my-gigs-online/comment-page-1/#comment-2531 Jonny Sun, 17 Aug 2008 23:13:55 +0000 http://newmusicstrategies.com/?p=732#comment-2531 There is a bar near me who refurbished and set up a stage with the idea of broadcasting shows live online. I played there a couple of years ago and they filmed the stage and showed it on screens around the bar. They didn't seem to broadcast at that point but they seem to have it up and running just now. You can see it here: http://www.box-glasgow.co.uk/webcast/index.html I suppose it's a good idea but I'm not sure what the sound quality is like and I don't think people are that interested it other than it being a novelty. There is a bar near me who refurbished and set up a stage with the idea of broadcasting shows live online.

I played there a couple of years ago and they filmed the stage and showed it on screens around the bar. They didn’t seem to broadcast at that point but they seem to have it up and running just now.

You can see it here:

http://www.box-glasgow.co.uk/webcast/index.html

I suppose it’s a good idea but I’m not sure what the sound quality is like and I don’t think people are that interested it other than it being a novelty.

]]> By: Scott Bramley http://newmusicstrategies.com/2008/08/17/how-can-i-put-my-gigs-online/comment-page-1/#comment-2530 Scott Bramley Sun, 17 Aug 2008 22:38:27 +0000 http://newmusicstrategies.com/?p=732#comment-2530 I streamed one of my gigs this week. The venue that I was performing at (The Sands Venue, Gainsborough) have recently started to offer this to its bands on a pay per view basis (£2 per stream) and I jumped at the chance to give it a try. I haven't seen it myself yet but had good feedback from some of those that tuned in, as far afield as New Jersey! I think it's going to be available to play again this week on their website (www.the-sands.co.uk/streaming) so I'll be able to take a look for myself. Some great ideas you've put forward regarding live ringtones etc. I didn't do that this time, but I'll give it a try for the next and maybe try to stream something myself. Great blog by the way! Scott Bramley www.scottbramley.co.uk I streamed one of my gigs this week. The venue that I was performing at (The Sands Venue, Gainsborough) have recently started to offer this to its bands on a pay per view basis (£2 per stream) and I jumped at the chance to give it a try. I haven’t seen it myself yet but had good feedback from some of those that tuned in, as far afield as New Jersey! I think it’s going to be available to play again this week on their website (www.the-sands.co.uk/streaming) so I’ll be able to take a look for myself.

Some great ideas you’ve put forward regarding live ringtones etc. I didn’t do that this time, but I’ll give it a try for the next and maybe try to stream something myself. Great blog by the way!

Scott Bramley
http://www.scottbramley.co.uk

]]> By: Atul Rana http://newmusicstrategies.com/2008/08/17/how-can-i-put-my-gigs-online/comment-page-1/#comment-2529 Atul Rana Sun, 17 Aug 2008 15:46:50 +0000 http://newmusicstrategies.com/?p=732#comment-2529 That's pretty useful advice and I think more importantly this touches on the issue of promotion via videos and youtube. And this can be done by pretty much any band at any level if they are smart enough with their marketing and promotion. And the performance doesen't even have to be a truly live webcast. We've set up our own youtube minisite where we post up live videos of our performances from our residency venue. The guy films and records the video for meagre £15 and all we have to do is put it up on our youtube. Now my friends in Brazil can know what we look and sound like on stage without even flying to London, result! Atul http://www.youtube.com/donkeyboxrocks That’s pretty useful advice and I think more importantly this touches on the issue of promotion via videos and youtube. And this can be done by pretty much any band at any level if they are smart enough with their marketing and promotion. And the performance doesen’t even have to be a truly live webcast.

We’ve set up our own youtube minisite where we post up live videos of our performances from our residency venue. The guy films and records the video for meagre £15 and all we have to do is put it up on our youtube. Now my friends in Brazil can know what we look and sound like on stage without even flying to London, result!

Atul
http://www.youtube.com/donkeyboxrocks

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