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	<title>Comments on: Michael Arrington is NOT an idiot</title>
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		<title>By: Dubber</title>
		<link>http://newmusicstrategies.com/2008/03/23/michael-arrington-is-not-an-idiot/comment-page-1/#comment-1673</link>
		<dc:creator>Dubber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 23:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems a rather bizarre observation given the man&#039;s clearly stated politics over the past 25 years, give or take...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems a rather bizarre observation given the man&#8217;s clearly stated politics over the past 25 years, give or take&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Hitmaker</title>
		<link>http://newmusicstrategies.com/2008/03/23/michael-arrington-is-not-an-idiot/comment-page-1/#comment-1672</link>
		<dc:creator>The Hitmaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 20:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great column. And Billy Bragg is a capitalist pig.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great column. And Billy Bragg is a capitalist pig.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Krizman</title>
		<link>http://newmusicstrategies.com/2008/03/23/michael-arrington-is-not-an-idiot/comment-page-1/#comment-1652</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Krizman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 04:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Should artists make money from their recordings?&quot;

Of course, what a stupid question.

The real quesion is why should they be the only ones not to?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Should artists make money from their recordings?&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course, what a stupid question.</p>
<p>The real quesion is why should they be the only ones not to?</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastiaan Elsenburg</title>
		<link>http://newmusicstrategies.com/2008/03/23/michael-arrington-is-not-an-idiot/comment-page-1/#comment-1654</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastiaan Elsenburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 08:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hurray for Joel!

Twenty years of hard graft learning to write and produce records...

I should have honed my skills in the noble art of selling T-shirts instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hurray for Joel!</p>
<p>Twenty years of hard graft learning to write and produce records&#8230;</p>
<p>I should have honed my skills in the noble art of selling T-shirts instead.</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastiaan Elsenburg</title>
		<link>http://newmusicstrategies.com/2008/03/23/michael-arrington-is-not-an-idiot/comment-page-1/#comment-1653</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastiaan Elsenburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 08:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hurray for Joel:

&quot;...we shouldnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t have to turn to creating, marketing and selling merchandise to make a living while all the music is free.&quot;

I should have honed my skills in the noble art of selling T-shirts instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hurray for Joel:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;we shouldnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t have to turn to creating, marketing and selling merchandise to make a living while all the music is free.&#8221;</p>
<p>I should have honed my skills in the noble art of selling T-shirts instead.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
		<link>http://newmusicstrategies.com/2008/03/23/michael-arrington-is-not-an-idiot/comment-page-1/#comment-1665</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 01:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justin, exposure is important. The point I&#039;m trying to make is that everyone tries to trade with you for this &#039;exposure&#039; like it&#039;s god&#039;s gift, and nobody wants to pay money for anything. Exposure won&#039;t feed your family, money does. I&#039;ve had this experience with people who wanted me to do free live gigs (even in coffee shops... what exposure?), albums, radio. Even a company I licensed a song to wanted it for free, in exchange for &#039;exposure&#039; - of course they flopped and $10 would&#039;ve been more valuable than this exposure they claimed they could heap upon me.

In fact I remember people asking for a t-shirt so they could give &#039;exposure&#039; when in fact all they wanted was a free shirt, though that&#039;s more a funny anecdote than a big industry-wide problem. But then again we&#039;re not t-shirt manufacturers, we&#039;re musicians - we shouldn&#039;t have to turn to creating, marketing and selling merchandise to make a living while all the music is free.

I agree with giving music away. I don&#039;t think I&#039;d give away all the tracks on the album, because then there&#039;s no incentive to buy a copy at all; you rely on charity cases. But the point is you cannot make a living trading everything for exposure. Something needs to be traded for money.

The best exposure is created through a well-thought out marketing campaign that you push yourself. Radio play and other things may help too, but you need to get decent exposure to get on there in the first place anyway. So, get exposure through planning and guerrilla marketing, but trade _real products_ for money just like you trade a few dollars for a roll of toilet paper at the grocery store.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin, exposure is important. The point I&#8217;m trying to make is that everyone tries to trade with you for this &#8216;exposure&#8217; like it&#8217;s god&#8217;s gift, and nobody wants to pay money for anything. Exposure won&#8217;t feed your family, money does. I&#8217;ve had this experience with people who wanted me to do free live gigs (even in coffee shops&#8230; what exposure?), albums, radio. Even a company I licensed a song to wanted it for free, in exchange for &#8216;exposure&#8217; &#8211; of course they flopped and $10 would&#8217;ve been more valuable than this exposure they claimed they could heap upon me.</p>
<p>In fact I remember people asking for a t-shirt so they could give &#8216;exposure&#8217; when in fact all they wanted was a free shirt, though that&#8217;s more a funny anecdote than a big industry-wide problem. But then again we&#8217;re not t-shirt manufacturers, we&#8217;re musicians &#8211; we shouldn&#8217;t have to turn to creating, marketing and selling merchandise to make a living while all the music is free.</p>
<p>I agree with giving music away. I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;d give away all the tracks on the album, because then there&#8217;s no incentive to buy a copy at all; you rely on charity cases. But the point is you cannot make a living trading everything for exposure. Something needs to be traded for money.</p>
<p>The best exposure is created through a well-thought out marketing campaign that you push yourself. Radio play and other things may help too, but you need to get decent exposure to get on there in the first place anyway. So, get exposure through planning and guerrilla marketing, but trade _real products_ for money just like you trade a few dollars for a roll of toilet paper at the grocery store.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Boland</title>
		<link>http://newmusicstrategies.com/2008/03/23/michael-arrington-is-not-an-idiot/comment-page-1/#comment-1666</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Boland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m astonished that anyone would say &quot;exposure is over-rated.&quot;

What else do you expect to build a career on?  How else do you expect to reach new fans?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m astonished that anyone would say &#8220;exposure is over-rated.&#8221;</p>
<p>What else do you expect to build a career on?  How else do you expect to reach new fans?</p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Justin Boland: the &quot;exposure&quot; thing is overrated. Musicians are always expected to write a song and hand it over in exchange for &quot;exposure&quot; - something that really, a musician can create much better on their own if they work hard enough, because the radio play and three second mention of your name that is subsequently forgotten doesn&#039;t happen until you&#039;ve got the audience and exposure happening on your own.

There are two issues here:

1. If everything is about exposure, when do artists get paid? Apparently, we shouldn&#039;t get paid for our recorded music, because that only exists to promote gigs. Also &#039;apparently&#039;, our gigs are there to promote albums. Somewhere in the middle is the fact that most beginning artists have to spend money to both gig and record (though recording runs into tens or hundreds of thousands, so gigging is obviously cheaper) rather than make money doing those things. The money to feed our family comes from where, then?

2. Of course radio should pay artists. Not for the reason that most artists, either famous or completely unknown, are poor. This is based on pure logic: radio requires content. That content is music. They pay musicians to deliver the content, otherwise nobody would listen to the radio. If nobody listens to radio, nobody buys ads on radio. The business model is based on advertising and the music is content that, like newspapers paying journalists for their work, is a business expense. Radio is not some kind of service where musicians pay to promote their work. In this fantasy world, radio stations don&#039;t have any expenses; they get paid by advertisers and musicians hand over their music for this &quot;exposure&quot; myth.

We supply the content so the ads get heard. We&#039;re a service to radio.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Justin Boland: the &#8220;exposure&#8221; thing is overrated. Musicians are always expected to write a song and hand it over in exchange for &#8220;exposure&#8221; &#8211; something that really, a musician can create much better on their own if they work hard enough, because the radio play and three second mention of your name that is subsequently forgotten doesn&#8217;t happen until you&#8217;ve got the audience and exposure happening on your own.</p>
<p>There are two issues here:</p>
<p>1. If everything is about exposure, when do artists get paid? Apparently, we shouldn&#8217;t get paid for our recorded music, because that only exists to promote gigs. Also &#8216;apparently&#8217;, our gigs are there to promote albums. Somewhere in the middle is the fact that most beginning artists have to spend money to both gig and record (though recording runs into tens or hundreds of thousands, so gigging is obviously cheaper) rather than make money doing those things. The money to feed our family comes from where, then?</p>
<p>2. Of course radio should pay artists. Not for the reason that most artists, either famous or completely unknown, are poor. This is based on pure logic: radio requires content. That content is music. They pay musicians to deliver the content, otherwise nobody would listen to the radio. If nobody listens to radio, nobody buys ads on radio. The business model is based on advertising and the music is content that, like newspapers paying journalists for their work, is a business expense. Radio is not some kind of service where musicians pay to promote their work. In this fantasy world, radio stations don&#8217;t have any expenses; they get paid by advertisers and musicians hand over their music for this &#8220;exposure&#8221; myth.</p>
<p>We supply the content so the ads get heard. We&#8217;re a service to radio.</p>
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		<title>By: musictech</title>
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		<dc:creator>musictech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 14:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a valid point - a decent recording of a decent song requires a whole lot of talent, expertise, equipment and work to create it. It&#039;s always difficult to assign monetary &#039;value&#039; to music, but the key to making money from music is not how talented a musician you are, but how talented a marketer you are. Marketers trump musicians any day in any economy; what we need is a system where marketers are partners of the creators, rather than simply exploiting them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a valid point &#8211; a decent recording of a decent song requires a whole lot of talent, expertise, equipment and work to create it. It&#8217;s always difficult to assign monetary &#8216;value&#8217; to music, but the key to making money from music is not how talented a musician you are, but how talented a marketer you are. Marketers trump musicians any day in any economy; what we need is a system where marketers are partners of the creators, rather than simply exploiting them.</p>
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		<title>By: Krzysztof Wiszniewski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Krzysztof Wiszniewski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 13:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hadn&#039;t heard of this particular controversy (chalk it up to living on the fringe of civilisation ;) ) so thaks for posting this here, Andrew.

This is exactly what I&#039;ve been ranting about in the comments for the past couple of months. To answer your questions, Andrew: yes, musicians should make money from recordings, for two reasons.

One is that recording anything is (still) an expensive exercise. Furthermore, the amount of work that goes into preparing for recording (including learning to play - or sing, composing the material, preproduciton etc.) is inestimable. Based on a broad idea of fairness, if someone is then to profit from another&#039;s work (by using it as bait to draw a clientele, as in this case), he should compensate them.

The other reason is that, fairness aside, if recording ceases to be an economically viable activity, people will either stop doing it, or put much less effort into it.

Personally, I hate it when anyone says: &quot;Do this for free, because it will give you exposure.&quot; while they&#039;re raking in the dough. It usually means &quot;You are an easily cowed moron, who will allow me to exploit your work for my gain, without any thought to how you are actually going to profit from this &#039;exposure&#039;.&quot; Previously it used to be the typical line of the club owner and you could only hope that at least you would sell some demos at the gig.

What surprises me is that many independent musicians are fooled into thinking that they can somehow profit from this. When the new ecosystem - as you put it, Andrew - stabilizes, the big players are going to have more influence than ever, simply because they&#039;ll be the only ones with the clout to negotiate decent terms with the technology companies and enough marketing dollars to break through the Internet noise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hadn&#8217;t heard of this particular controversy (chalk it up to living on the fringe of civilisation ;) ) so thaks for posting this here, Andrew.</p>
<p>This is exactly what I&#8217;ve been ranting about in the comments for the past couple of months. To answer your questions, Andrew: yes, musicians should make money from recordings, for two reasons.</p>
<p>One is that recording anything is (still) an expensive exercise. Furthermore, the amount of work that goes into preparing for recording (including learning to play &#8211; or sing, composing the material, preproduciton etc.) is inestimable. Based on a broad idea of fairness, if someone is then to profit from another&#8217;s work (by using it as bait to draw a clientele, as in this case), he should compensate them.</p>
<p>The other reason is that, fairness aside, if recording ceases to be an economically viable activity, people will either stop doing it, or put much less effort into it.</p>
<p>Personally, I hate it when anyone says: &#8220;Do this for free, because it will give you exposure.&#8221; while they&#8217;re raking in the dough. It usually means &#8220;You are an easily cowed moron, who will allow me to exploit your work for my gain, without any thought to how you are actually going to profit from this &#8216;exposure&#8217;.&#8221; Previously it used to be the typical line of the club owner and you could only hope that at least you would sell some demos at the gig.</p>
<p>What surprises me is that many independent musicians are fooled into thinking that they can somehow profit from this. When the new ecosystem &#8211; as you put it, Andrew &#8211; stabilizes, the big players are going to have more influence than ever, simply because they&#8217;ll be the only ones with the clout to negotiate decent terms with the technology companies and enough marketing dollars to break through the Internet noise.</p>
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