Comments on: Hooray for the music biz! http://newmusicstrategies.com/2007/11/03/hooray-for-the-music-biz/ Music culture, strategy and thinking in the digital age Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:46:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Greatest Hits Compilation | New Music Strategies http://newmusicstrategies.com/2007/11/03/hooray-for-the-music-biz/comment-page-1/#comment-1239 Greatest Hits Compilation | New Music Strategies Tue, 11 Nov 2008 09:50:40 +0000 http://newmusicstrategies.com/2007/11/03/hooray-for-the-music-biz/#comment-1239 [...] Hooray for the Music Biz This year’s Gigbeth conference came and went last week. This particular blog post was a kind [...] [...] Hooray for the Music Biz This year’s Gigbeth conference came and went last week. This particular blog post was a kind [...]

]]> By: Created in Birmingham » Gigbeth Conference Video http://newmusicstrategies.com/2007/11/03/hooray-for-the-music-biz/comment-page-1/#comment-1238 Created in Birmingham » Gigbeth Conference Video Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:35:32 +0000 http://newmusicstrategies.com/2007/11/03/hooray-for-the-music-biz/#comment-1238 [...] of sex teenagers hosted by Andrew Dubber where they laughed in the face of the music industry. He writes about it here. Share [...] [...] of sex teenagers hosted by Andrew Dubber where they laughed in the face of the music industry. He writes about it here. Share [...]

]]> By: harrisongalaxy http://newmusicstrategies.com/2007/11/03/hooray-for-the-music-biz/comment-page-1/#comment-1229 harrisongalaxy Tue, 06 Nov 2007 09:27:37 +0000 http://newmusicstrategies.com/2007/11/03/hooray-for-the-music-biz/#comment-1229 Reaction to the former BPI Executive Chairman I'd suggest exposes him less as an ostrich, more as having been moribund of ideas having grown fat, dumb and happy for at least 20 years. I contend that if you chart the consumer attitudes of 14-yr olds today and those of say 29-yr olds today when they were 14 (ie: pre-internet) there is a huge intersection, there are precious few differences. Go back even further, and where today playgrounds are full of mp3s bluetoothed around, elder tracks replaced once memory cards filled, how many middle-aged music lovers today can readily recall swapping cassette tapes in the classroom and a fortnight later record over them? If it is true, as the half-dozen sample suggest, that 14-yr olds are indeed willing to spend cash on 'entertainment', then in a world where they no longer splash their Fiver in Woolies on a couple of brand new CD singles every other week, the onus is on the 'record industry' to (as the Americans obsessively say) monetise music-related offerings. Whether that be from initiatives such as licensing and live or any other experiences is up to them, the fact that smacks you right between the eyes, is that they must start getting more creative and finally reverse the stagnation that's afflicted them over the past couple of decades. Reaction to the former BPI Executive Chairman I’d suggest exposes him less as an ostrich, more as having been moribund of ideas having grown fat, dumb and happy for at least 20 years.

I contend that if you chart the consumer attitudes of 14-yr olds today and those of say 29-yr olds today when they were 14 (ie: pre-internet) there is a huge intersection, there are precious few differences.

Go back even further, and where today playgrounds are full of mp3s bluetoothed around, elder tracks replaced once memory cards filled, how many middle-aged music lovers today can readily recall swapping cassette tapes in the classroom and a fortnight later record over them?

If it is true, as the half-dozen sample suggest, that 14-yr olds are indeed willing to spend cash on ‘entertainment’, then in a world where they no longer splash their Fiver in Woolies on a couple of brand new CD singles every other week, the onus is on the ‘record industry’ to (as the Americans obsessively say) monetise music-related offerings.

Whether that be from initiatives such as licensing and live or any other experiences is up to them, the fact that smacks you right between the eyes, is that they must start getting more creative and finally reverse the stagnation that’s afflicted them over the past couple of decades.

]]> By: Fortune Grey » Blog Archive » 14 year old girls and music ethics http://newmusicstrategies.com/2007/11/03/hooray-for-the-music-biz/comment-page-1/#comment-1230 Fortune Grey » Blog Archive » 14 year old girls and music ethics Tue, 06 Nov 2007 04:41:13 +0000 http://newmusicstrategies.com/2007/11/03/hooray-for-the-music-biz/#comment-1230 [...] - audience isn’t worried about that kind of thing. In fact, as Andrew Dubber’s report demonstrates, there’s a lot of other stuff in [...] [...] – audience isn’t worried about that kind of thing. In fact, as Andrew Dubber’s report demonstrates, there’s a lot of other stuff in [...]

]]> By: Rob http://newmusicstrategies.com/2007/11/03/hooray-for-the-music-biz/comment-page-1/#comment-1231 Rob Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:59:50 +0000 http://newmusicstrategies.com/2007/11/03/hooray-for-the-music-biz/#comment-1231 The agency that funded my first business has had me go into area high schools to speak about entrepreneurship in general and opportunities within the music industry specifically. Always an eye opening experience. Almost none of them - I've been in to speak to between 200-250 students so far I'd guess - purchase CDs anymore. All but 7 in total have illegally downloaded music [and at least one of those 7 wanted to but his family didn't own a computer]. The one thing I did find though - and there were numerous exceptions to this of course - but even across schools (6 off the top of my head, multiple classes at some) was the level of homogeneous in what was being listened too. One area I plan on exploring further when I do future talks is where and how youth are hearing about the music they listen to. There's a regional music conference here next weekend and they also have a panel with teenagers planned, see how that goes. The agency that funded my first business has had me go into area high schools to speak about entrepreneurship in general and opportunities within the music industry specifically. Always an eye opening experience.

Almost none of them – I’ve been in to speak to between 200-250 students so far I’d guess – purchase CDs anymore.
All but 7 in total have illegally downloaded music [and at least one of those 7 wanted to but his family didn't own a computer].

The one thing I did find though – and there were numerous exceptions to this of course – but even across schools (6 off the top of my head, multiple classes at some) was the level of homogeneous in what was being listened too.

One area I plan on exploring further when I do future talks is where and how youth are hearing about the music they listen to.

There’s a regional music conference here next weekend and they also have a panel with teenagers planned, see how that goes.

]]> By: Catherine Bray http://newmusicstrategies.com/2007/11/03/hooray-for-the-music-biz/comment-page-1/#comment-1232 Catherine Bray Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:28:37 +0000 http://newmusicstrategies.com/2007/11/03/hooray-for-the-music-biz/#comment-1232 I realise this is more statistically meaningless anecdotal evidence, but the 14 year olds' music consumption sounds exactly like that of many of my contemporaries (mostly 20 somethings) in most respects. While I'm not sure immediate deletion is as common, it's certainly the case that something might be listened to once and forgotten if it's not good, then later deleted when it comes to freeing up the hard drive, giving you a similar end result. I'm a pretty high-traffic music consumer myself, but with a very limited CD collection. I can't understand the shock over deleting music you're finished with - why would anyone have any qualms about getting rid of an MP3 they know they'll never listen to again? I realise this is more statistically meaningless anecdotal evidence, but the 14 year olds’ music consumption sounds exactly like that of many of my contemporaries (mostly 20 somethings) in most respects. While I’m not sure immediate deletion is as common, it’s certainly the case that something might be listened to once and forgotten if it’s not good, then later deleted when it comes to freeing up the hard drive, giving you a similar end result. I’m a pretty high-traffic music consumer myself, but with a very limited CD collection. I can’t understand the shock over deleting music you’re finished with – why would anyone have any qualms about getting rid of an MP3 they know they’ll never listen to again?

]]> By: Jez Collins http://newmusicstrategies.com/2007/11/03/hooray-for-the-music-biz/comment-page-1/#comment-1233 Jez Collins Mon, 05 Nov 2007 13:54:45 +0000 http://newmusicstrategies.com/2007/11/03/hooray-for-the-music-biz/#comment-1233 Hi Dubber, unfortunately couldn't afford the fee for Gigbeth this year,from what I hear there was a lot of interesting discussion going on. Drop me a line re the germ of an idea of your's regarding having a wider/worldwide conference of Young People talking about music and consumption. There is a absolutely ideal place to hold it in Birmingham. Hi Dubber, unfortunately couldn’t afford the fee for Gigbeth this year,from what I hear there was a lot of interesting discussion going on. Drop me a line re the germ of an idea of your’s regarding having a wider/worldwide conference of Young People talking about music and consumption. There is a absolutely ideal place to hold it in Birmingham.

]]> By: Stef Lewandowski http://newmusicstrategies.com/2007/11/03/hooray-for-the-music-biz/comment-page-1/#comment-1235 Stef Lewandowski Mon, 05 Nov 2007 10:26:57 +0000 http://newmusicstrategies.com/2007/11/03/hooray-for-the-music-biz/#comment-1235 Thanks for the write-up. Round one to 14 year old girls! Thanks for the write-up. Round one to 14 year old girls!

]]> By: Jennifer http://newmusicstrategies.com/2007/11/03/hooray-for-the-music-biz/comment-page-1/#comment-1234 Jennifer Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:21:47 +0000 http://newmusicstrategies.com/2007/11/03/hooray-for-the-music-biz/#comment-1234 Interesting indeed! I work in a Wiltshire school for Expressive Arts so if you need a handful of students from here, let me know! You know, it's pretty sad to hear about the girls habit of trashing music once they get bored of it. I was only just recently watching High Fidelity and I love it when he starts to organise his record collection autobiographically. I have many albums that I hardly ever listen to at all, but when I peruse my collection some cd's just jump out and remind me of a certain time in my life. It's a shame they'll miss out on that. As an aside, aren't Nizlopi great? I was just thinking this morning on the way into work how I needed to email them your site address :o) <a href="http://www.dispatchmusic.com/dispatch.html" rel="nofollow">Dispatch</a> may also be a band of interest to you. They've been dubbed as the first inovators of real independant music. Interesting indeed! I work in a Wiltshire school for Expressive Arts so if you need a handful of students from here, let me know! You know, it’s pretty sad to hear about the girls habit of trashing music once they get bored of it. I was only just recently watching High Fidelity and I love it when he starts to organise his record collection autobiographically. I have many albums that I hardly ever listen to at all, but when I peruse my collection some cd’s just jump out and remind me of a certain time in my life. It’s a shame they’ll miss out on that.

As an aside, aren’t Nizlopi great? I was just thinking this morning on the way into work how I needed to email them your site address :o)

Dispatch may also be a band of interest to you. They’ve been dubbed as the first inovators of real independant music.

]]> By: Abigail Seabrook http://newmusicstrategies.com/2007/11/03/hooray-for-the-music-biz/comment-page-1/#comment-1236 Abigail Seabrook Sun, 04 Nov 2007 23:07:14 +0000 http://newmusicstrategies.com/2007/11/03/hooray-for-the-music-biz/#comment-1236 Thanks for that Andrew, it's been good to read about the conference and get an idea of what went on. I would have really liked to go, but being a freelance skint creative type the £50 entry fee was a little out of my reach! Thanks for that Andrew, it’s been good to read about the conference and get an idea of what went on. I would have really liked to go, but being a freelance skint creative type the £50 entry fee was a little out of my reach!

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